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Do you cry when you spar or fight?

she-kicks-she-throws:

I was speaking with a fellow high-ranking woman martial artist with significant high-level competition experience over 17 years, and in her experience it was fairly common for women to cry during an intense sparring session.  

In her opinion, this was not a show of weakness, but a common and totally acceptable reaction to intensity and didn’t actually diminish the woman’s effectiveness in the ring.  

This jives with studies about how and why women cry when they are angry. However, in some male-dominated spaces, crying during sparring can be interpreted as weakness or not being ready or confident.  

What are your experiences with crying during martial arts sparring? Have you ever cried when sparing?  How did you feel about it? How did others take it?  

I was stunned and startled when I started crying during the ultimate test of my Hapkido during my black belt testing in October.  Four men came at me with various attacks (pushes, punches, grabs, kicks) and my task was to improvise to use my techniques to neutralize them one by one, over and over and over.  

A few seconds in, my ki-yaps turned to screams and sobs.  My opponents were confused, but complied as I kept waving them to continue through the tears.  In my head, I was mortified.  So embarrassed.  I just couldn’t believe I was crying during my black belt test - the moment where I had to prove myself as a warrior of control and fluidity, an example of calm and practice, a woman confident.

The judges stopped me and asked if I was alright.  I tried to assure them that I absolutely was and that I wanted to continue.  They allowed me to and before I knew it, it was over.

I heard second-hand that the judges had no idea what to do with me - only one person spoke out on my behalf concerning the crying.  He seemed to understand that martial arts was an expressive experience for me.  

Afterwards, to my face, many people who’d observed my testing said things about me being brave, or impressive, and that they were proud. But all I could feel for a long time was that they were being cajoling and pitying, because I was still so embarrassed.

In my head and heart I knew that I did good hapkido, that crying shouldn’t matter, that I didn’t give up, that I absolutely was not afraid, or sad, or hurt.  What I felt was ferociousness.  

Now that I’ve heard that it’s not all that uncommon, that crying isn’t a bizarre reaction to intensity, I feel like that insecurity is finally leaving.

swishyswingskirts:

veronicaofithaca:

Seeing as this is a discourse that we’ll be bringing up in my scene in the coming weeks, I thought I’d pose it to tumblr: how normal is it for female identified persons to lead and male identified persons to follow in your scene?

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I don’t even know you but I LOVE YOU GUYS ALREADY! YOU’RE ALL SUPER CUTE

Also, on a less squee-ful note, here some observations. 

As far as I can see, men and women are encouraged to lead, probably because there simply aren’t enough men interested in dancing to have a 1:1 man/woman ratio. On the other hand, only women are encouraged to follow. 

…I’m half tempted to go into an angry rant here about why two women dancing together isn’t a big deal, but when a man follows, suddenly everybody is forming a jam circle and going “Look how great!” (I’m guilty of that, tbh. Doesn’t mean I don’t view it critically..) because obviously it’s obvious by now that women can do everything that men do [♫everything you can do, I can do better. I can do everything better than you!) but men still aren’t comfy doing “women things” because ick, cooties! ..so we have to be extra supportive of them!!1! 

But I’m not gonna rant, noooope, not at all. 

RE: Angry Rant

I NO RITE?  It used to be the all the rage to hold same-sex/gender contests at late nights on big weekends, and I used to always enter.  I had a few women friends who could both lead and follow.  We could actually dance! We could switch clearly between roles and do banging dancing.  But it was always a garbage disaster.

What wins at those things isn’t good dancing, but who can do the most shockingly homoerotic stunts.  I hate the fetishization of homosexuality, that a straight guy gyrating against another straight guy is some kind of bold party trick.  Like it’s sooooo exciting and oh my god they went there and ngh derp.  

Yuck on men showing off by following poorly, vamping as feminine without actually dedicating consideration that following isn’t an inherently feminine act, that following isn’t just a sexy show that it’s an integral part of the dance.  
Yuck on following as a stunt!  In those situations, their performance of clunky feminine performance is far more rewarded then actually following.  Which is hard.  Which is beautiful.  Which is really cool.  

*Yes, following can be an expression of feminine sexuality, it can be funny.  That is all valid.  But fetishizing it so often rings problematic for me. 

So I refer everyone to my playlist again.

Dove: Thought Before Action (by Ogilvy Toronto)

Dove releases rogue Photoshop action to undo photo manipulations

“After multiple ad campaigns, Dove is this time trying to send a message to the artists that manipulate photos by releasing a Photoshop action called ‘Beautify’ that reverts images to their original state and overlays a banner proclaiming ‘don’t manipulate our perceptions of real beauty.’”


Holy crap, this is so subversive, I love it.

LindyBadger: Calling all feminist Lindy hoppers... Help?

colorfuloddity:

Ohmygooodddddd I know that feel. It’s scarier when you have to directly stand up for yourself/when you are being/feeling threatened rather than coming to the defense of someone else. Especially when you’re in a public and ostensibly “safe” space like a venue. It’s the worst kind of trapped feeling.

I don’t know what to say to do, except try to make sure your friends are there to get him to fuck off since your efforts haven’t been successful, and talking to someone who helps run the venue to see if they can help you do anything about it. Most likely they can’t or won’t offer anything than moral support since dude is presumably a paying customer, but it’s worth a shot letting them know this dude is a creeper.

I think it’s good advice to have someone report him to the venue and be insistent about what you want.  I want him barred from the venue. Getting a creeper’s $7 every night is nothing compared to what they will lose by having him around.

  • If he’s done it to one person, he’s done it to others.  There are other people (paying customers) who may now think twice about showing up.
  • Who may think twice about bringing a friend.
  • Who may think twice about reporting bad behavior in the future, if the venue operators shut them down the first time.
  • I would hope, and I would impress upon the venue organizers, that  creating a safe, enjoyable place for all is far more important than one creep’s $7 a week.  

LindyBadger: Calling all feminist Lindy hoppers... Help?

jetaimejanae:

A few weeks ago at dance, a guy approached me while I was sitting behind the DJ table on the stage.

For those not familiar with the set up we have in Knoxville, the DJs have a table on a stage, the venue is an old church turned theatre. The people who have been dancing longer tend to hang around…

What a horrible, invasive, loser shitsmear.  I’m so sorry you were put through that experience, especially in your space, your turf.  I’m glad you had friends there to support you.  Hopefully you can get him kicked out of the venue.

[content note: discussion of sexual assault]

I’m a martial artist and I’m involved in the local university’s self-defense program.  I work with the Women’s Center on campus and the martial arts club to create useful self-defense seminars for people in our community, usually college-age women.  Not only do I spend time understanding effective ways to fight, but also understand the data of assaults.  

The Department of Justice and other independent studies report some very interesting things. In reported sexual assault situations, they looked at 3 types of self-defense strategies: verbal (like shouting and screaming), fleeing, and fighting.  Verbal, used alone, was least effective, and physically fighting back was the most effective in preventing injury during an assault.

Women who used 1 self-defense strategy had a 63% chance of escaping a rapist.

Women who used 2 self-defense strategies had a 78% chance of escaping a rapist.  

And when we fight back we decrease our chances of serious personal injury in an assault scenario.  But women who plead with their attackers or use the sadly oft-recommended strategy of appealing to mercy increased their chances of being seriously injured.  (Rape is about power, yes?) Only .05% of reported rapes end in murder, so the risk of getting hurt more by resisting is negligible.  Fight if you can.

So my point is: if you feel threatened, I recommend fighting back.  Shout, yell, and then fight back.  Predators are counting on women valuing social peace over their own safety, they will manipulate you into thinking you owe them your politeness.  They will exploit the fear we have that they can overpower us.

So yea - push that asshole.  Twist his fingers if he touches you.  Stick your thumb in his eye if he corners you.  I’m advocating violence in defending yourself, not for the sake of hurting someone who just pisses you off.  I didn’t want that to go without saying.  I think we know when someone is crossing a line, but it’s not always easy to step over it yourself and get physical.

If you want to feel more confident about your chances in a physical assault, maybe we can look for self-defense in your area together.  It’s more than just kicking someone in the nuts.  There’s lots you can do. And even though numbers don’t protect us, fighting back is very unlikely to make things worse.  It’s very likely (78% more likely!) to be effective.  

Many of our attendees to our self-defense seminars are all to aware that 90% of assaults are done by people they know.  Maybe people they trust.  Our self-defense seminars include techniques that won’t seriously injure someone but hurt like hell.  Pressure points, simple joint locks - movements that send a message without say, pulling off an ear.  (Only six pounds of pressure…!)

I’m so sorry.  I would be so upset if that happened to me, if that creeper was so insistent even after you said no a thousand times, turned on the nasty face, and actively walked away from him.  I wouldn’t blame anyone for feeling sick at that.  I hope I’ve been helpful.  Love you, Janae.  Email me if you want! 

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I should also say that I am sometimes in conflict about self-defense, especially as a marketed product because self-defense is only a part of the whole story. (Prosecution of reported assaults is abysmal, education about sex rarely includes the importance of clear consent, etc)  I don’t mean to imply at all that if a women does not fight back, she deserves what happened to her.  No fucking way. But the reality is predators will try to mess with you at a swing dance and you might want them to fuck off out of your business. 

aquietrevolutionary:

themadfangirl:

kieradoe:

whatsortofamandoesntcarryatrowel:


Dad: Why do you think they do that?Girl: Because the companies who make these try to trick the girls into buying the pink stuff instead of stuff boys want to buy. [x]
that awkward moment when a child understands the harm of forcing gender roles better than most grown male politicians.

Always reblog.

I’m surprised that I haven’t reblogged this, to be honest.

I love that last gif.  She looks so frustrated.  Like “Um, hello, obviously girls and boys can like anything why doesn’t anybody get that???”

this kid fucking gets it.

my life
aquietrevolutionary:

themadfangirl:

kieradoe:

whatsortofamandoesntcarryatrowel:


Dad: Why do you think they do that?Girl: Because the companies who make these try to trick the girls into buying the pink stuff instead of stuff boys want to buy. [x]
that awkward moment when a child understands the harm of forcing gender roles better than most grown male politicians.

Always reblog.

I’m surprised that I haven’t reblogged this, to be honest.

I love that last gif.  She looks so frustrated.  Like “Um, hello, obviously girls and boys can like anything why doesn’t anybody get that???”

this kid fucking gets it.

my life
aquietrevolutionary:

themadfangirl:

kieradoe:

whatsortofamandoesntcarryatrowel:


Dad: Why do you think they do that?Girl: Because the companies who make these try to trick the girls into buying the pink stuff instead of stuff boys want to buy. [x]
that awkward moment when a child understands the harm of forcing gender roles better than most grown male politicians.

Always reblog.

I’m surprised that I haven’t reblogged this, to be honest.

I love that last gif.  She looks so frustrated.  Like “Um, hello, obviously girls and boys can like anything why doesn’t anybody get that???”

this kid fucking gets it.

my life
aquietrevolutionary:

themadfangirl:

kieradoe:

whatsortofamandoesntcarryatrowel:


Dad: Why do you think they do that?Girl: Because the companies who make these try to trick the girls into buying the pink stuff instead of stuff boys want to buy. [x]
that awkward moment when a child understands the harm of forcing gender roles better than most grown male politicians.

Always reblog.

I’m surprised that I haven’t reblogged this, to be honest.

I love that last gif.  She looks so frustrated.  Like “Um, hello, obviously girls and boys can like anything why doesn’t anybody get that???”

this kid fucking gets it.

my life

aquietrevolutionary:

themadfangirl:

kieradoe:

whatsortofamandoesntcarryatrowel:

Dad: Why do you think they do that?
Girl: Because the companies who make these try to trick the girls into buying the pink stuff instead of stuff boys want to buy.
[x]

that awkward moment when a child understands the harm of forcing gender roles better than most grown male politicians.

Always reblog.

I’m surprised that I haven’t reblogged this, to be honest.

I love that last gif.  She looks so frustrated.  Like “Um, hello, obviously girls and boys can like anything why doesn’t anybody get that???”

this kid fucking gets it.

my life

My breasts don't assault you by just sitting here, actually

A great article critiquing a less than great article, wherein the less than great article prompts women dancers to dress more modestly else we stir up the uncontrollable horndog instincts in the men around us.  

Instead of being helpful tips and tricks about how women can succeed in achieving the look they want, the less than great article shames women by telling them how they should dress.

The great article is great.

Most guys don’t want to be horndogs, but what you wear (or don’t wear!) can drag them kicking and screaming over that line, ladies.  Guys want to respect you (They do!), but they might be pulled to hard towards their “instinct” (consequences unspecified), and just not dance with you if you look too slutty.  So there.

(consequences unspecified)

Lindy Shopper is all but ignoring the implication of tempting mens with our powerful boobs, and instead like… makes up visible breasts as the violent assault upon society.  It starts to get very strange when metaphors of ‘safe’ and ‘sorry’ are used to describe how a woman should dress modestly or WHO KNOWS WHAT MEN WILL THINK/SAY/DO.

bristolswing:

Why Men Lead and Women Follow - 10 Wrong Reasons

Before people get riled up by this, lookee also at the bottom of the page of the article the linked page is so angry about:

Addendum: The above is the article as I first wrote it in about 1999. In 2010, it became the ignition for some surprisingly heated debate amongst Lindy hoppers on-line. I should not need to defend this essay, because it really is clear enough what it is saying, but for those interested in controversy, I have written a page dealing with criticisms, and adding clarifications. Find there also a link to a Yehoodi radio talk show I took part in about this page.

And on that page:

I think the reason that some people have trouble with the article, is that they are treating it not as ten factors that go towards explaining why a convention that undoubtedly exists is the way it is (why men tend to lead and women tend to follow instead of the other way around), but instead as “Ten justifications, each of which is strong enough on its own to make plain why it has to be the case and should be the case that men lead in social dance and women follow.” In fact, none of the ten reasons in the list on its own is strong enough to make it the case that the convention has to be the way it is. It was once the case, before the convention was established, that it could have gone either way. In the end, it came down on the side where men generally lead and women generally follow. I list in this essay factors that all nudged in the same direction. I am explaining the convention, not justifying it. Indeed, if you read the work carefully, you will see that I accept that perhaps there is a drawback to the convention’s very existence.

Lloyd’s one of the good guys - he writes like he talks - which is “a lot”!

Eh, he’s so dismissive.  Talking about the invalidly of *offense taken, talking about political correctness, marking those who think he’s off his rails as angry and no fun.  He doesn’t get to use ‘you’ and then decide who he means.  

I don’t think that his meaning got lost.  I just think he’s wrong.

He gives his 10 reasons and frames them as here’s maybe why this stuff exists but he doesn’t acknowledge that repeating these as normal and things that will make someone feel better about understanding the sexist foundations of our dance only perpetuates them.  We don’t need to normalize stereotypes.  That perpetuates the stereotypes.  We should normalize a diversity of experience.  That will allow for more diversity of experience.

His norms erase diverse expressions of gender, trans* experiences and those who aren’t heterosexual.

Instead of advising people uncomfortable with the sexist foundations of our partnering by telling them it’s all just normal, we should advise people on how to appreciate things that are good and problematic at the same time. Lindy hop is good! But there are elements of it that are problematic.  We intersect with some very complicated topics like racism, sexism, and classism and not always gracefully.

If a person, the supposed target of the article, is made uncomfortable by the problematic sexist bs in our scene, then perhaps we can be accepting and encouraging of them to defy the standard and dance how they want to dance.  We can tell them that bs like height and strength actually do not matter.  We can create spaces that don’t shuffle people off into boxes, like classes not using gendered language and nixing competition requirements that say ‘one man, one woman’.

* People so often dismiss the idea of being offended that I don’t use the term anymore.  If you’re offended then the next step is being called over-sensitive or just looking for ideas to be angry.  I hate that bs.  Now I focus on the wrongness and harm things do. The objection to Lloyd’s article isn’t offense and PC, it’s about how it and other thinking like it continue to make Lindy Hop a space that excludes.

(Source: emilymeowler)

PSA: Your Default Narrative Settings Are Not Apolitical

Worth reading - why ‘historical accuracy’ is a bullshit reason to keep certain groups like women and people of color out of our sci-fi/fantasy.  

fozmeadows:

Victorian Women SmokingImage taken from tumblr.

Recently, SFF author Tansy Rayner Roberts wrote an excellent post debunking the idea that women did nothing interesting or useful throughout history, and that trying to write fictional stories based on this premise of feminine insignificance is therefore both…

Point being, I’m sick to death of historical accuracy being trotted out as the excuse du jour whenever someone freaks out about the inclusion of a particular type of character in SFF, because the ultimate insincerity behind the claim is so palpable it’s practically a food group.  - from the essay.  read it.

IT’S PRACTICALLY A FOOD GROUP THO

My Battle With Hulu Ads

  • Hulu:

    You watch Glee, Grey's Anatomy, Dances With the Stars, The Office, 30 Rock, Daily Show, and one horrible season of Rookie Blue. You must want to see adverts about babies! Because you're a woman. And women love babies.

  • Me:

    No.

  • Hulu:

    Ah, you don't have or want babies right now, no problem... Birth control ads! We'll show you the same Nuva Ring ad over and over.

  • Me:

    NO!

  • Hulu:

    Hmm... not babies, not birth control... oh! You must be a senior citizen! Here's some advertisements for life insurance, pharmaceutics, age spot cream, and Mitt Romney!

  • Me:

    NO NO NO NO NO.

  • Hulu:

    No, I can figure this out. Oh! I know! Here. ENGAGEMENT RINGS!

  • Me:

    *rageface*

  • Hulu:

    B-b-b-ut... then what? I just... these are things all women care about...! You're not getting engaged...? Maybe you just don't feel pretty.

  • Me:

    ...

  • Hulu:

    Dove beauty sauce! Eye-dagger mascara! Make-up! Nose polish! Ear-shrinker! Orgasm shampoo!

  • Me:

    This is why we can't have nice things.

  • Netflix:

    Hey. How's it going?

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